Comments on: Industry In Revolt Now Turns On TopSEOs.com http://nickwilsdon.com/sem-industry-revolt-topseos-com/ Tue, 12 Apr 2011 07:09:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Ash Nallawalla http://nickwilsdon.com/sem-industry-revolt-topseos-com/#comment-21436 Ash Nallawalla Sat, 03 Apr 2010 10:18:53 +0000 http://nickwilsdon.com/?p=905#comment-21436 I've been enjoying the Easter break too well to have missed this news. I have added my perspective at http://www.netmagellan.com/why-i-dont-display-my-numerous-topseos-awards-811.html and linked to this page. I’ve been enjoying the Easter break too well to have missed this news.

I have added my perspective at http://www.netmagellan.com/why-i-dont-display-my-numerous-topseos-awards-811.html and linked to this page.

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]]> By: David Bain http://nickwilsdon.com/sem-industry-revolt-topseos-com/#comment-21432 David Bain Thu, 01 Apr 2010 09:47:56 +0000 http://nickwilsdon.com/?p=905#comment-21432 It's a tricky, tricky topic and something that won't get an adequate solution for anytime soon in my opinion. There are 2 main issues - firstly, nearly everyone involved in the SEO industry has an interest and therefore can't be deemed to be completely neutral. And secondly, most companies / organisations have little idea of what optimum SEO standards are and how to measure them. Because of this, clients aren't in an educated position when it comes to judging which SEO company is best. It’s a tricky, tricky topic and something that won’t get an adequate solution for anytime soon in my opinion. There are 2 main issues – firstly, nearly everyone involved in the SEO industry has an interest and therefore can’t be deemed to be completely neutral. And secondly, most companies / organisations have little idea of what optimum SEO standards are and how to measure them. Because of this, clients aren’t in an educated position when it comes to judging which SEO company is best.

]]> By: Nick Wilsdon http://nickwilsdon.com/sem-industry-revolt-topseos-com/#comment-21431 Nick Wilsdon Thu, 01 Apr 2010 05:48:50 +0000 http://nickwilsdon.com/?p=905#comment-21431 @Alan The work you and Edward have done on this issue is impressive, you're certainly played key roles in this revolution. On hindsight - I should have highlighted that more and linked to your <a href="http://www.searchenginejournal.com/cleaning-up-the-seo-cesspool/16042/" >Cleaning up the SEO Cesspool</a> article. However I still feel that Rhea has been the fuel on this fire. Not deliberately beyond her work on the SEO trademark but it really shamed everyone that a 25yr had spent so much of her time and money ($17'000). On top of that, she'd done it silently until the win came through. She took the issue of defending the industry into the mainstream and by volunteering her time and money for our interests, left us all owing her a debt. As you know, I've been around a fair time myself, from SEW, Threadwatch to Sphinn. We've all seen this topic come up time and time again. The community reaction this time round was different. Even <a href="http://twitter.com/dannysullivan/status/11111619186" >Danny was surprised</a>. We're marketers. We know that having the right material in place when key events unfold can start an explosion. I've seen 5k ppl per day <a href="http://www.justiceformark.com" >hit this site when Doherty</a> gets arrested (again). This was one of those times. You (<a href="http://searchmarketingwisdom.com/" >SearchMarketingWisdom</a>), <a href="http://www.seoconsultants.com/" >Edward Lewis</a> and <a href="http://seobullshit.com/" >SEOBullshit</a> are all key players in this. Like you say though Alan, the big question is <strong>where does this go now?</strong> Does the activism fade out, to leave us recycling the same old arguments in 2012 - or do we build on it? I've often wondered why SEMPO doesn't take up the torch on this issue. I look forward to reading your article there. @Alan

The work you and Edward have done on this issue is impressive, you’re certainly played key roles in this revolution. On hindsight – I should have highlighted that more and linked to your Cleaning up the SEO Cesspool article.

However I still feel that Rhea has been the fuel on this fire. Not deliberately beyond her work on the SEO trademark but it really shamed everyone that a 25yr had spent so much of her time and money ($17’000). On top of that, she’d done it silently until the win came through. She took the issue of defending the industry into the mainstream and by volunteering her time and money for our interests, left us all owing her a debt.

As you know, I’ve been around a fair time myself, from SEW, Threadwatch to Sphinn. We’ve all seen this topic come up time and time again. The community reaction this time round was different. Even Danny was surprised.

We’re marketers. We know that having the right material in place when key events unfold can start an explosion. I’ve seen 5k ppl per day hit this site when Doherty gets arrested (again).

This was one of those times. You (SearchMarketingWisdom), Edward Lewis and SEOBullshit are all key players in this.

Like you say though Alan, the big question is where does this go now? Does the activism fade out, to leave us recycling the same old arguments in 2012 – or do we build on it?

I’ve often wondered why SEMPO doesn’t take up the torch on this issue. I look forward to reading your article there.

]]> By: Alan Bleiweiss http://nickwilsdon.com/sem-industry-revolt-topseos-com/#comment-21430 Alan Bleiweiss Thu, 01 Apr 2010 01:23:43 +0000 http://nickwilsdon.com/?p=905#comment-21430 Ego driven as I am, I'd say that the kindling was set when I wrote my Cleaning up the SEO Cesspool article over at SEJ at the beginning of the year :-), and the founding of SEOBullshit.com ignited the kindling. However yes, I think Rhea's achievement really got the fire going in bonfire proportions - at least it did for me. But without a doubt, we owe just as much gratitude to Edward Lewis for pouring fuel on the fire :-) In any case, I totally agree that we need to find our way toward what is truly an acceptable, workable solution to the mess. I only wonder how my upcoming article on SEMPO is going to play into all of this. Ego driven as I am, I’d say that the kindling was set when I wrote my Cleaning up the SEO Cesspool article over at SEJ at the beginning of the year :-), and the founding of SEOBullshit.com ignited the kindling. However yes, I think Rhea’s achievement really got the fire going in bonfire proportions – at least it did for me. But without a doubt, we owe just as much gratitude to Edward Lewis for pouring fuel on the fire :-)

In any case, I totally agree that we need to find our way toward what is truly an acceptable, workable solution to the mess. I only wonder how my upcoming article on SEMPO is going to play into all of this.

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